Nelson Mandela RIP (maybe…)

Davud Davis

One of us is going to write something about the late President Nelson Mandela, of the Republic of South Africa, and probably soon. But I can’t say who it will be or what he will say. On this blog, none of us knows who will say what next: it’s a bit like a Quaker Meeting actually (good analogy – I just thought of it now! Ho ho.)

If it was me that gets there first, I may not be quite as charitable as the political-EnemyClass would like. Although at least he didn’t actually kill anyone directly after he got elected.

One of us will probably have more to say later, although I have already been nicely mealy-mouthed on my facebook yesterday.

14 responses to “Nelson Mandela RIP (maybe…)

  1. The man was a terrorist – sorry but that is the unpalatable truth. His buddy Joe Slovo was a really nasty piece of work and his wife, the necklace murderess Winnie, a Devil. I wish him no harm but I wish the media would just SHUT UP about him.

    • The media , it seems , like to build up recently dead politicians and make them into demi-gods’; think kindly of the media as the maximum leader is still dead and can’t be resurrected. For that we can be thankful!

      • The media has nothing else to do but talk endlessly about their imaginary ideals and fictive icons. They don’t care to focus on reality because reality doesn’t agree with their wish-fulfillment urges. So they yak yak yak about how unique Mandela was, forgetting or repressing the knowledge that he was a committed communist and that he sanctioned terrorism.

  2. I can’t be charitable about Mandela. He allied himself with the worst dictators, tyrants, and killers of the 20th and 21st century. He was a communist who got his training in the Soviet Union. He never distanced himself from any of his “friends,” and certainly not from the ANC, a black racist organization hoping to loot South Africa as Mugabe has looted and destroyed Rhodesia (yes, Rhodesia), and as a bonus go on a genocidal rampage against whites. Here’s a link to a photo gallery of Mandela’s friends and admirers. Don’t waste any tears or sighs over Mandela. If he didn’t kill himself, he sanctioned killing not only whites but blacks who opposed his policies and his canonization as a “saint.”

  3. Lynn Atkinson

    68,800 whites have been MURDERED in SA since Mandela took over. Millions have abandoned a life’s work and left,
    It’s genocide, but we can mention it because whites don’t matter.

  4. Still living in the 1970s? Mandela was a great man but his true legacy can be seen at:

    • I read the “Anti-Racist Front” encomium (a “front”? an obvious tip-off that it’s disguising something else). So, how do you explain Mandela making huggy-bears with Castro, Qadhaffi, Mugabe, and Arafat, and God know what other tyrants and killers there was no photo-op for, singing the “Kill the Boer” song with the ANC, promising that communism or socialism will make S.A. a paradise, having nothing to say about the further impoverishment of the population under black rule, overseeing the destruction of the country’s economy with the confiscation of white farms and businesses with predictable results? It was easy for Mandela to act pious and utter words about “reconciliation,” but he really didn’t need to do any conciliating, did he? He was about as “pious” as Barack Obama and as phony, of whom it is said: “Never mind what Obama says. Watch what he does.” And Mandela did nothing to stop the ongoing genocide of whites and Malays and Indians in S.A. Yep, I’m still “living” in the 1970’s.

    • Mr. Sydenham: Explain these Mandela gems:
      1) “If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America. They don’t care for human beings.”
      2) “Long live the Cuban revolution. Long live comrade Fidel Castro … Cuban internationalists have done so much for African independence, freedom and justice. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of a vicious imperialist campaign designed to destroy the advances of the Cuban revolution. We too want to control our destiny. … There can be no surrender. It is a case of freedom or death. The Cuban revolution has been a source of inspiration to all freedom-loving people.”
      3) “[T]he people of Asia and Africa have seen through the slanderous campaign conducted by the USA against the socialist countries. They know that their independence is threatened not by any of the countries in the socialist camp but by the USA, who has surrounded their continent with military bases. The communist bogey is an American stunt to distract the attention of the people of Africa from the real issue facing them, namely, American imperialism.”
      4) “Under a Communist Party government, South Africa will become a land of milk and honey. Political, economic and social rights will cease to be enjoyed by whites only. They will be shared equally by whites and non-whites. There will be enough land and houses for all. There will be no unemployment, starvation and disease. Workers will earn decent wages; transport will be cheap and education free.”
      5) “Yasser Arafat was one of the outstanding freedom fighters of this generation, one who gave his entire life to the cause of the Palestinian people.”
      6) “The cause of communism is the greatest cause in the history of mankind!”
      7) “Those who feel irritated by our friendship with President Khadafy can go jump in the pool.”
      8) “There’s one place where (Fidel Castro’s) Cuba stands out head and shoulders above the rest – that is in its love for human rights and liberty!”
      9) “The victory of socialism in the U.S.S.R., in the People’s Republic of China, in Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland and Rumania, where the living conditions of the people were in many respects similar and even worse than ours, proves that we too can achieve this important goal.”
      10) “Communists everywhere fight to destroy capitalist society and to replace it with socialism, where the masses of the common people, irrespective of race or color, will live in complete equality, freedom and happiness. They seek to revolutionize society and are thus called revolutionaries. Those who support capitalism with its class divisions and other evils and who oppose our just struggles to end oppression are called counter revolutionaries.”
      11) “In our own country, the struggles of the oppressed people are guided by the South African Communist Party and inspired by its policies. The aim of the S.A.C.P. is to defeat the Nationalist government and to free the people of South Africa from the evils of racial discrimination and exploitation.”
      These and other of Mandela’s statements, with the appropriate name changes, could have been lifted from any one of Lenin’s speeches or works.

  5. When I said the debate on this blog was “1970s” I meant that it had missed the whole move towards racial struggle rather than class war as the motivation for post modern socialism. I was just pointing out how far the British have gone with Post Marxism by providing a link to a blog that is triumphalist about the “progress” made by British socialists. See for more detail.

    It is not the communists who are the modern threat to liberty, it is Post Marxism. The reason Mandela is iconic is that he embodies the moral imperative of anti-racism, an imperative that is reasonable when applied to the colour of a man’s skin but which is routinely pushed to include hatred of your own country and even of family life. Post modernism and post marxism are the amorphous roots of the new socialism yet on this page, especially in the comments, the correspondents are still fighting communism!

  6. Today One South African Rand is only worth 0.097 of a U.S. Dollar, S.A. economy hasn’t been managed very well since end of F.W. de Klerk, Presidency.