Orthodoxy: The Real Universal Church

5 responses to “Orthodoxy: The Real Universal Church

  1. That is the weirdest icon I have seen.

    The best story I have heard about the Orthodox Church (I do not know if it is true – I just hope it is) is that when the Roman Church accepted organ music in the 5th century the Eastern Church (at that time and, for centuries more, both Churches were supposedly the same Church – just one used Latin and the other stuck to Greek) took the matter for consideration…….

    And is still considering it.

  2. Edward Spalton

    Rome has cast such a giant shadow in the West that Churches here, whether Protestant or not, define themselves in relation to it. The Orthodox would accept the Bishop of Rome as “first in honour” and patriarch of the West among the other patriiarchs but reject his claim to superior jurisdiction over all the Church. The national Orthodox Churches are autocephalous but remarkably united on matters of doctrine. They sometimes fight like cats and dogs over matters of jurisdictional area but the whole ethos is much more organic than Rome’s historically more successful top/down organisational approach.
    I used to think that the Orthodox made a hugely disproportionate song and dance over the insertion of. The “Filioque” (“and from the son”) into the Niceness creed. An Orthodox friend pointed out that it was “a revolutionary act”, asserting the authority of th Pope above the Seven Great Councils of the Church which had defined doctrine collegially.

    On mature consideration, I think he was right and have come to see the Papal Curia (officialdom) as a sort of spiritual forerunner of the EU Commission, extending its claims to jurisdiction subtly and relentlessly until it could dictate to everyone.

    On a visit to the Holy Land twenty years ago, I was surprised to find that “Catholic” meant Orthodox and those whom I regarded as Catholic were “The Latins”. Everyone else was lumped together as Protestant or Evangelical. It reminded me of the different understandings of the word “chapel” which usually means nonconformist in England but, in Scotland and Ireland, generally refers to a Roman Catholic place of worship.

  3. Edward Spalton

    For ” Niceness ” read Nicene . The. damned spell checker used its own initiative without my noticing it!