Charles Moore begins to sound like Ian B …

David Davis

…which may be a good thing.

3 responses to “Charles Moore begins to sound like Ian B …

  1. The message is getting out! I is a trailerblazer! Hehe.

    Seriously, it’s nice to see that in a MSM column. Also very important the distinction between morality and moralism. Very important distinction thar.

    As I’ve been saying for some time, the conservative thesis that the Enemy work by dismantling morality (the, er, “Marcuse Hypothesis”) misses what is going on. They only dismantle an old morality to replace it with a new, much fiercer, moralism; which we call “Political Correctness”. This is the Victorian Era, Part II. Without the good bits, such as they were, because all of them are already gone.

    Or, as I just said over at Samizdata, this is Christianity without Christ; we have the sin, but no means of salvation. Which is why at the “Deep Green” end of the loony cavalcade, they have concluded that mankind itself must be eradicated. No heaven for us, I’m afraid, just a variety of hells.

  2. Well, yes, exactly.
    If Ian stuck with going as far as the Telegraph article, about hypocrisy, about which the Lord Jesus had more to say than most other things, that would be fine.
    But unfortunately Ian also wishes to consign heaven to the dust cart as per his comment above.
    Why is it necessary to extrapolate a valid concern to destroy that which is not the issue, which is beneficial and in fact necessary if tyranny is not to triumph?
    I refer to your previous post:

    Regarding covetousness (ie a preoccupation with the affairs of this world) Jesus had this to say:

    Luke 16

    And he said also unto his disciples, There was a certain rich man, which had a steward; and the same was accused unto him that he had wasted his goods.
    And he called him, and said unto him, How is it that I hear this of thee? give an account of thy stewardship; for thou mayest be no longer steward.
    Then the steward said within himself, What shall I do? for my lord taketh away from me the stewardship: I cannot dig; to beg I am ashamed.
    I am resolved what to do, that, when I am put out of the stewardship, they may receive me into their houses.
    So he called every one of his lord’s debtors unto him, and said unto the first, How much owest thou unto my lord?
    And he said, An hundred measures of oil. And he said unto him, Take thy bill, and sit down quickly, and write fifty.
    Then said he to another, And how much owest thou? And he said, An hundred measures of wheat. And he said unto him, Take thy bill, and write fourscore.
    And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.
    And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations.
    He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
    If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?
    And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man’s, who shall give you that which is your own?
    No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
    And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.
    And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.
    The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
    And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
    Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
    There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
    And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
    And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
    And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
    And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
    And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
    But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
    And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
    Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house:
    For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
    Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
    And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
    And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

  3. Well thanks John, I’m sure none of us had a blooming bible in case we wanted to read a sermon.

    If you’d actually read my comment instead of launching into another evangelical mission, you would realise I wasn’t consigning anything to the dustcart, but describing the Progressive Movement.

    Now, do feel free to post the whole text of Revelation, or any other Bronze Age Jewish mythology you think may be enlightening.