Pirates: Join the Navy, travel to faraway places, meet bad and uninteresting people in rubber boats with guns, and kill them

David Davis

This story shows that there is no point in The West trying to pretend that “pirates” need to be “negotiated with”. A US boat turned up, and it was all over.

The place for pirates is the ocean bottom, while still alive, just (for a little time) with a lead weight tied to their feet, and no oxygen cylinder.

3 responses to “Pirates: Join the Navy, travel to faraway places, meet bad and uninteresting people in rubber boats with guns, and kill them

  1. How about Ragnar Danneskjöld?

    The world is getting very much like Atlas Shrugged, isn’t it.

  2. Dave:

    All traditional Liberal princoples assert that the Law must be upheld with only the absolute minimum of necessary force.

    How, pray can crimes against humanity possibly fit that remit? That sort of Atavism ruined Chris Tame’s life. Because he thought that way, he came to believe that his enemies (real and imagined) would treat him that way.

    The word ‘Karma’ comes readily to mind…


  3. Dave:

    Try this:

    War Crimes Act of 1996
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The War Crimes Act of 1996 was passed with overwhelming majorities by the United States Congress and signed into law by President Bill Clinton.

    The law defines a war crime to include a “grave breach of the Geneva Conventions”, specifically noting that “grave breach” should have the meaning defined in any convention (related to the laws of war) to which the U.S. is a party. The definition of “grave breach” in some of the Geneva Conventions have text that extend additional protections, but all the Conventions share the following text in common: “… committed against persons or property protected by the Convention: willful killing, torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments, willfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health.”

    The law applies if either the victim or the perpetrator is a national of the United States or a member of the U.S. armed forces. The penalty may be life imprisonment or death. The death penalty is only invoked if the conduct resulted in the death of one or more victims.Contents [hide]
    1 Legislative history
    2 Potential application
    3 See also
    4 References
    5 External links

    Legislative history

    The law criminalized breaches of the Geneva Conventions so that the United States could prosecute war criminals, specifically North Vietnamese soldiers who tortured U.S. soldiers during the Vietnam War. The Department of Defense “fully support[ed] the purposes of the bill,”[1] recommending that it be expanded to include a longer list of war crimes. Because the United States generally followed the Conventions, the military recommended making breaches by U.S. soldiers war crimes as well “because doing so set a high standard for others to follow.”[1] The bill passed by unanimous consent in the Senate and by a voice vote in the House,[1] showing that it was entirely uncontroversial at the time.

    Ten years later, the United States Supreme Court ruled in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld ( 000 U.S. 05-184 ) that Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions applied to the War on Terrorism, with the unstated implication that any interrogation techniques that violated Common Article 3 constituted War Crimes.[2] The possibility that American officials and soldiers could be prosecuted for war crimes for committing the “outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment”[3] prohibited by the Conventions led to a series of proposals to make such actions legal in certain circumstances, which resulted in the Military Commissions Act of 2006.

    Potential application

    White House officials were concerned that they and other U.S. officials could be prosecuted under the War Crimes Act for the U.S. treatment of detainees after 9/11 for violations of the Geneva Conventions. In a January 2002 memorandum to the president, then-White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales authored a controversial memo in January 2002 that explored whether Article III of the Geneva Convention applied to Al Qaeda and Taliban fighters captured in Afghanistan and held in detention facilities around the world, including Camp X-Ray in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The memo made several arguments both for and against providing Article III protection to Al Qaeda and Taliban fighters. He concluded that Article III was outdated and ill-suited for dealing with captured Al Qaeda and Taliban fighters. He described as “quaint” the provisions that require providing captured Al Qaeda and Taliban fighters “commissary privileges, scrip, athletic uniforms, and scientific instruments”. He also argued that existing military regulations and instructions from the President were more than adequate to ensure that the principles of the Geneva Convention would be applied. He also argued that undefined language in the Geneva Convention, such as “outrages upon personal dignity” and “inhuman treatment”, could make officials and military leaders subject to the War Crimes Act of 1996 if mistreatment was discovered.[4]

    The adoption of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, defined in Section 6 of the act grave abuses of Common Article 3 to only include torture, cruel or inhumane treatment, murder, mutilation or maiming, intentionally causing serious bodily harm, rape, sexual assault or abuse, and the taking of hostages, thereby limiting the scope of the original law.

    See also
    Command responsibility
    Nuremberg Trials

    ^ a b c Smith, R. Jeffrey (2006-07-28). “Detainee Abuse Charges Feared”. Washington Post: p. A1. Retrieved on 2006-10-04.
    ^ Brooks, Rosa (2006-06-30). “Did Bush Commit War Crimes?”. Los Angeles Times. Retrieved on 2006-10-04. “In other words, with the Hamdan decision, U.S. officials found to be responsible for subjecting war on terror detainees to torture, cruel treatment or other ‘outrages upon personal dignity’ could face prison or even the death penalty.”
    ^ Diplomatic Conference for the Establishment of International Conventions for the Protection of Victims of War (1949-08-12). “Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War”. United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights. I, a. 3, 1(c). Retrieved on 2006-10-04.
    ^ Gonzales, Alberto. Decision Re Application of the Geneva Convention on Prisoners of War to the Conflict with Al Qaeda and the Taliban, Memorandum for the President, January 25, 2002. (PDF file provided by MSNBC/Newsweek)

    External links
    Federal Law 18 USC Sec. 2441 known as the “War Crimes Act”
    US Code, Part I, Title 18, Chapter 118, section 2441
    JustForeignPolicy.org petition posted in September 2006 asking visitors to help protect the War Crimes Act from repeal