We have been alerted to this by an Ian Parker-Joseph piece, flagged also by The Landed Underclass. As many foreign readers as possible had better know what’s going on and rumbling suspiciously under the surface here. This must be before the BBC (and other almost equally-reprehensible News channels) tell them something quite different in their usual oily authoritarian tone.
Bloggers, and especially liberal and libertarian ones, are specially sensitive people, reading a lot as one does, and also ignoring – largely – the MsM, which we find to be increasingly unhelpful and useless as a real information source. We have sensed tension “in the air” for some time now.
Dungeekin had a go at this idea also, back-end of last year. And Legiron, on 26th February, warned people _not to_ riot or even “take to the streets”, as this would give the British régime just the excuse it wanted in order to invoke all its “special powers” it has awarded itself while everyone’s back was turned. you have to wonder where the Queen stands in all this – not that there’s any hope she could arrest the seemingly inevitable course of events which we now mostly suspect.
(I don’t know why that’s all underlined, and I can’t get rid of the underscoring, sorry.)
We guess that what should be done, to anyone who is ostensibly _not_ some form of “Interior Ministry Troops” and who appears to be trying to stir up trouble, is this: that they should immediately be bundled by five or six burly brickies into the nearest white van, and taken somewhere quiet, in order to spend a period of reflection in the company of people determined to find the truth. Although the future life of the brickies may be nasty and short, at least information will be gained about what is to be faced.
It says in The Landed Underclass that The Telegraph says that the “government” is “prepared to change the Law” to stop Sir Fred Goodwin getting his contractually-agreed pension. Just look at this terrifyingly dangerous utterance:-
But Ms Harman, Labour’s deputy leader, said that all necessary steps would be taken if the 50 year old would not do the “honourable” thing. (my emphasis – ed.)
“Sir Fred should not be counting on being £650,000 a year better off as a result of this because it is not going to happen,” she told BBC1’s Andrew Marr show.
“The Prime Minister has said it is not acceptable and therefore it will not be accepted. It might be enforceable in a court of law this contract but it’s not enforceable in the court of public opinion and that’s where the Government steps in.”
Ms Harman declined to say exactly what action could be taken but reports this week have suggested a special Act of Parliament was being considered by Downing Street as a last resort.
It is a dangerous thing, that any government, after Magna Carta, does not have respect for Law. Talk of “public opinion” and “The People” is always a dead-giveaway about Nazis lefty tyrannical tendencies. All outfits that behave in this way should be treated as deeply suspect nasty fascist lefty Nazis.
Sir Fred Goodwin, although probably as culpable as any trough-pigging banker who dined out for years on States’ funny-money, is entitled, as a Sovereign Individual, to keep what free contracts have allowed to him. Specially as Guido has pointed out that Lord Myners knew about it in advance and the sums involved are nugatory.
This is a clear case of shamelessly but unjustifiably trying to take the high-moral-ground, but the thoughpiggers of ZanuLieBorg – who have pissed away the money, and also incidentally robbed millions of people of hundreds of billions of their own, fully-legally-obtained, and paid-for, “private pension pots”, to pay for a clientariat-votariat for themselves.
We all now have to work till we die. Sir Fred’s £700,000 is the least of our worries. I hope he gets a highly-paid job with the IMF and screws Harriet Harman (metaphorically – I for one would not even “escort” her, if she paid me.)
The group, Sect of Revolutionaries, first appeared earlier this month when it opened fire with a submachine gun on an Athens police station, spraying the precinct with bullets but injuring nobody. [...] On Tuesday, the group carried out a similar attack in the parking lot of the private Alter television station, again causing no injuries.
In a statement published by the daily Ta Nea, the group says its latest attack was a message to journalists that “the time that you were ‘untouchable’ is over.”
“They manipulate our minds daily so that we fill the reserves of our disciplined time with values and functions that feed the system,” the group says, adding: “Let the slugs of media journalism know that apart from the mucus they leave behind them… soon they will also leave blood.”
“Mister journalists, this time we came to your door, but next time you will find us in your homes,” it said.
The assaults culminated on Wednesday with an attempt to detonate a car bomb outside the headquarters of Citibank in Athens. The 60 kilogram device, assembled with ammonium nitrate fuel oil – the explosive used in the Oklahoma City bombing – could have destroyed the four-storey building and killed hundreds.
“From now on, the life of every cop is worth as much as a bullet, while their bodies are the ideal target practice,” the Sect of Revolutionaries declared in its maiden proclamation. “They, like the doughnuts that they eat, are no good without a hole in the middle.”
They may be bloodthirsty lefty lunatics, but those boys can write…(aka Mr Eugenides.)
“Personal Privacy” will have to be sacrificed in order to fight “terrorism” and suchlike.
We already knew that, but now they’re saying it out loud. And the LPUK has a much better-argued and fuller rendition (ha ha ha ha ha! Rendition! is this another word for the lefties to lynch or have they merely invented it to sound like clever-clogs?) of the matter.
The global-climate-change-Gramsco-MarxiaNazi-buggers, and their _very_ close friends who are the starvation-driving-mass-people-slaughterers, will not now be faced with the evidence – which is that Man is _not_ causing “global warming”. Thye have cleverly scuppered the satellite – and can simultaneously discredit what ordinary people call “rocket-science”….so that it’s for them a “one-stone-solution to a two-bird problem”.
As regards rocket-science, they will be able to sya how inept we all are, and should stay here and subsistence-farm with chicken manure and stuff.
As regards “global warming”, they will be able to say that “the Science” is “still settled”, for there is still “no” evidence for their hypothesis being proved not to be true.
See?
Simple really.
You just do the insurance-equivalent of setting your car on fire, to claim the dosh and pretend it was all right anyway.
I have worked out how to say what it is that makes me sad about this particular matter. It’s that, in its ever-tightening screwhold on individuals’ liberties, this current British State takes even toys, that boys and men (and even some girls) have once liked to play with, harmlessly, and turns them into weapons of constriction.
if one was a psychiatrist, then one would, after all this is done, like to take some of these State people, put them on the couch, and try to find out, really find out, what made them do what they did? Why did a man who sold teledrones to the Army (understandable) agree to sell them to the State Police….why did he not send the bastards packing out of his office waving a cricket bat, even, when they came to ask to buy them from him…to spy on British householders late on….?
Why did the couchee-subjects I have referred to, see the world not as other people, but as controllers of it? or as salesmen to controllers? As controllers of other, unknown individuals’ lives, or worse, as accessories after the fact of that imposed control?
Is it just simple nasty error-ridden Gramsco-Marxianism, or is it something…..deeper? What actually motivated them to consciously err?
Can’t they understand that individuals have Free Will? That the reason for opposition to State control is that it ought not to exist?
In the end, what is it that makes someone want to be, say, a traffic warden, or a concentration-camp-guard, or a “modern” interior-ministry-policeman?
Have we as libertarians failed in some way, to explain how this mind-set cannot be normal, and the owner of it must have suffered in some way, to get like that?
Or, does evil really exist, existentially?…..here’s the post you signed on for……..
(1) What measures will householders be able to take to prevent overflight of their property by these robots, if they decide they simply don’t like them and don’t actually want them around, or they are a nuisance, or they keep us awake in the night, or they scare the racing-pigeons? (The helicopters are bad enough.)
(2) To what extent will _Radio Amateurs_ be prevented from _examining_ and then _analysing_ the frequencies and transmission-modes used? (I never said we would try to transmit on these bands or even interfere with them…we are strictly licensed to operate on certain bands, and in particular modes only. But “nobody suggests” that we can’t listen to any public transmission or signal whatsoever….)
(3) What are the “sunset” clauses inherent in the use of these extraordinary bits of machinery, considering thatw e are supposed to be living in what even this government calls a “Free Society”?
Where must the Queen’s subjects stand up, and actually draw the line in the sand?
What, for example, if you wanted to do Practical Coal Mining, in your garden? Would this stuff be used against you?
I have to say that I don’t know. But torture is “institutionally” non-English, and does not originate here. Asia, and other places, are where the Europeans learned it, from having undergone it by defending against invasive incursion in things such as Crusades (I am not allowed to say against what we were defending, for then my son would get suspended from his history course.) And to _not_ torture while investigating, is essentially an English practise. Read your Paul Johnson: “The Offshore islanders” – chapter ref: “this Realm is an Empire”.
David Davis
This article here is full of implications and non-sequiturs. You lazy indolent buggers out there had better read the entire thing. The (shifty-looking) [allegedly] “up for it” guy ( = dude) walked off the plane, in the UK, to his family and to his “law_yers” (if you wozz a state, wott seriously, regularly, “did” people, in the basement of the “Ministry” for a living, really, like Nazi Gramsco-Marxian scumbags habitually do) then would you let a torturee do that? Walk off the plane in front of camerae? No, I would not either) but the text implies he was tortured at the command of the British “security services”.
There is, as my old co-director used to say about bailiffs, Health-and-Safety-Gestapo, and other fascistically-motivated non-marketeering State-predator-scumbags who used to be paid, out of our taxation, to psychologically-torment us and functionally-impede us in the course of our business,“MORE TO COME ON THIS ONE, SON”. I take great exception to the entire thing, but I will report back tomorrow when it has all got cooked a bit more and I can smell the rats floating in the air.
And here’s me been trying to impose a commenting moratorium on myself. Oh well, here I go again.
Sean’s prescription for what to do when power is gained, while perhaps or perhaps not perfect in the detail, is a good one, and is the kind of thought experiment which may bring one temporary cheer. However it does not (nor, one must absolutely acknowledge attempt to) answer the question of how such a position may be gained. As such it is much like discussing which stars to visit in a starship, while ignoring the hard problem, which is how to build a warp drive.
The problem is that by not discussing in the same breath the gaining of that position, we overlook the fundamentally recursive nature of the discussion. If a government of libertarians, or of “the right” (I dispute that label, but let us let it pass for now) or of “real conservatives” (I dispute that even more as I said before) has gained office in our thought experiment, then the war is already won. That which should be done by such government then becomes a trifle, as it will have the authority to do whatever it wishes.
Unless it has gained power by subterfuge, rather than gained office by honest campaigning, this imaginary government has already told the populace that it will slash government to ribbons, immediately leave the EU, abolish the BBC, hound the enemy out of local government, strangle all the quangos and so on. It can only thus gain office if it has the support of the majority of those citizens who care. To achieve that, it must have gained a cultural hegemony and, more significantly a moral hegemony.
It will have become moral to support small government and immoral to support big government. It will have become moral to support tax cuts, to despise the enemy class, and so on.
To achieve the initial conditions for such a libertian cultural revolution, the public morality must have already become libertarian, rather than the current secular evangelical statism.
This is the Hard Problem, and it would seem at this juncture to be entirely intractable, since altering the moral hegemony requires cultural hegemony, while the cultural hegemony is driven by the moral hegemony.
What is oft mistakenly believed is that the statists/Left/whatever invaded the institutions- government, education etc, from outside. This is not true. There were always socialists inside the elite; indeed it is an elite project and always was. We, on the other hand, have no insiders; and the defenders against whom we wish to move are entirely alert to the possibility of any counterhegemonic entryism and are thus able to nullify it before it gains purchase. The Hard Problem is thus profoundly hard.
There are no videos of Klaus himself being shouted at and with grasping, totalitarian, trough-pigging-socialist-scumbags walking out, but we’ll put them on as soon as possible if they appear.
Gordon Brown has apparently invited poor unwitting Joseph Ratzinger/Benedict XVI to Britain. Since everything that Brown touches turns to dust and ashes, including the UK economy, the Libertarian Alliance urges the Pope NOT TO ACCEPT the invitation to come to Britain. It is not any more a Christian country in any regular sense anyway, so why bother?
Despite him being the Vicar of Christ, the Pope turning up here can’t save us from the ZanuLieborg Hell we are now in: only we can.
OI !!!! Pope!
Can you hear us?
Please don’t come: save yourself for Brazil or Zimbabwe where you’ll be safer or somewhere, that needs you more. Something bad will happen to the Catholic Church, or you might die of MRSA (don’t kiss the “health” “secretary” at all) or “Jacqui” “Smith” might want to scan you on video at the airport.
…the “war on terror” is a thinly-veiled excuse to set up a Police State in the UK.
David Davis
I was initially not agreeing with this, thinking that the “terror” does actually exist, and was, is now and will in future be real, and is spoken of in public, with disarming frankness, by our civilisation’s enemies: often on the BBC in the name of even-handedness. But I am now coming round to Sean’s point of view. However, IMHO the “terror” has not gone away, and anyway is just a tactic of a certain kind of war which is cheap to fight against the civilisation of a sleepy and drugged enemy, like the British population.
The problem is that most people, most of the time, don’t care enough about “terror”: in the absence of a real and immediate war, on the doorstep or overhead, it’s not really possible to keep up a sufficient state of stress in this day and age. I blame the government, its education policy (a real one, to dumb down people truly and on purpose), their friends in the broadcast media who work to this objective also, and i blame “people” themselves, for falling for it all and lying back (not) thinking of England.
Regarding terror, this state subsists for so long as they have been drugged into the statist stupor of thinking that “The Government” is “doing something” and “bringing in tougher laws”…it all sounds so as if someone is “in charge”…..so we can all get back to the latest Jade Goody stuff (poor woman, she’s dying, can’t be long now…please please put us all our misery out-of quickly, will someone (Yoda again)) and “Big Brother” and the X Factor, whatever that is.
(So you’d better not or else you’ll get your computer(s) seized. And your DNA forcibly taken and reverse-engineered – this I think is much worse than what it would mean for you children….who knows if they’re not going to try to clone suspect “extremists”, so they can then security-theatre-arrest them, in the years to come, thus reinfocing the fear of terror?)
There is a very interesting comment thread on the Chris Dillow article.
If you have arrived here by accident on a google-search, being a young white man with no hair (WHY the f*** do you all have no hair? It makes you look to the left as if yoo wozz Nazis) who wants a shag with a beautiful girl, we can’t provide it.
Sorry.
But we CAN tell you why your government is a rotten load of Nazi scumbags headed by “Jacqui” “Smith”, of Hertford College, Oxford University, (not Oxford Brookes, sadly, which pretends to be, wish she’d come from there instead) the “second-home-secretary” (not Gordon Brown, he can’t see, and so he can’t type, and so he can’t be in charge), and who want your DNA if you own a white W-reg Vauxhall Corsa, have no hair, and want a shag, and if you live in High Park.
You’d better ask where High Park is, next. It is where the burgulators burgulate from.
I commend to you the post by Leg-Iron about this matter. Moreover, for as long as either the other Officers of the Libertarian Alliance, or those of the NewLieBorgFabiaNazi State – whichever crowd comes here to remove me first – this Blog will maintain the following:-
That for Classical liberalism to survive – and indeed to spread – an institutionally-Judeo-Christian background to society, is an absolutely necessary pre-condition, but not in itself a sufficient one. The State, in such a society, insofar as it has functions, ought to publicly maintain and defend positions based on the Gospels and the Mosaic Decalogue. it is then up to libertarians to force the State’s institutions (if need be) to take further positions based on natural Rights: that is to say, to abide by the spirit and the letter of all our usual life/liberty/property guff.
So no let-up for you people regarding Christmas messages on here, then. Easter ones if I can get round to them: got a good one building as a draft. And, if you’re not careful, and young Northwood fails to eat his boiled greens (without salt) on Friday nights, I’ll hit you all on Ascension Day.
UPDATE2:- This is what Obnoxio the Clown thinks of the matter. I didn’t even know Geert Wilders was a Dutch MP and that he’s been kicked out due to some threat or other from some crack-heads from upper-Jipoopooland: sorry, you see we live in Lancashire, we don’t really get multiculti-crack-heads here, ‘cozz it’s miles away, thank God at least that Copper Wire has been discovered, so I can say something and you’ll hear it by August next year…..
UPDATE1:- I gather he’s been deported. Can’t think that Keeley Hazell would approve of that, although of course she might, it’s her choice. However – let us suppose, hypothetically, just suppose – that he’d made a movie about how misogynistically-repressive the Catholic Chruch was, about women.
That it said, for example, that they don’t allow women to be priests….or that women should ordinarily “submit to their husbands’ “demands” ” – whatever that may mean…or, even – wait for it – a movie about “what a Jesuit is really thinking”. You know the sort of thing: sinister backlit shots of faceless, unrecognisable “Jesuits”, silhouetted, saying unmentionable things, such as there is Right and Wrong……
……and that “some things are good, some things are bad”.
D’you think Wilders would get deported for that?
Neither do I.
P’raps it’s because he looks like every young female Gramsco-Marxian teacher’s nightmare-phantasm of a socialistNazi SS trooper blond beast?
…and…he ought to have worn a nice red tie…..the blueish one is death on stilts…..
There are two nations now – firstly, the one the Enemy Class inhabits (see Dr Sean Gabb’s site for further clarification of these buggers) into which there is Active Transport of money, up a very very steep Concentration Gradient.
And then there is the one they chain us in – fenced in by cameras, terror-police and DNA databases, where the money is produced, and from which it is extracted, as if we are their farm animals.
It’s not really about “racism” – whatever that now-empty-word might once have meant or does now – any more. Now, there is a middling-rough war going on, against the existence and raison-d’etre of the last people and institutions to personify a whole civilisation and culture that the gramsco-marxians hate and want dead.
Look at their continuing referrals to the “Upper Classes”, for example.
Expect poor old Prince Harry to be packed off to somewhere else in darkest Africa instead of with his mates in Afghanistan, to be pictured some more with crowds of more-or-less-grinning children.
I ought to ask The Landed Underclass to join the Libertarian Alliance’s 100-Chimpanzee-typewriting-and-Research-Nissen-Hut “team” 0f assistant executive liberty-promotional-associates, or whatever places like Apple retail outlets call their shop-staff these days.
He has, unlike me and the Chimpanzees, been “reading around”. He came up with this. Here is the ref, from Legiron, for the book in question. I’d buy it while you’re still allowed to:-
[Source: The Spanish Inquisition, a history, by Joseph Perez. ISBN 1-86197-687-9 in case anyone's interested. The English translation by Janet Lloyd, was published by Profile Books, London, in 2004.]
Legiron asks why the “Righteous” are incensed, and scream “racist!” about anyone who thinks of voting for the BNP. His point if I understand it right is that the BNP are only exactly as autoritarian and control-freakish than the Righteous parties (which is all of them except the LPUK) and also come without the baggage of unpopular foreign wars and the EU. The Libertarian Alliance has always made clear that the BNP is merely another corporatist/state-collectivist party just like the other biggies, and that the British left hates and fears it because it competes with it for the same part of the Franchise.
The Landed Underclass picks up an announcement on Spyblog, about the growing unilateral Police threat to anyone allegedly photographing the police as they go about whatever they have decided is their business these days.
I have no views at this time either way, regarding pictures of policemen. Unlike ordinary human beings, most policemen are ugly and essentially non-photogenic creatures. Perhaps this is deliberate, or else they get like that by doing what they do in a Police State. Personally I think it’d be a waste of film, or electricity.
But once they get down to being serious about bashing up people who disagree with their opinions, and really applying the “anti-terror” provisions, and stuff in the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005 ss 132 -138 , which Landed Underclass quotes, then it’s time to test the law.
From Landed again. be there, at:-
Monday 16th February 2009, from 11am… Broadway, London, SW1
Nearest Tube Station is St. James’s Park
Update:- Landed also takes issue with the requirement, by the Police in North London, for a new pub licensee to install compulsory videoing of the heads and shoulders of patrons as they enter his to-be-taken-over (and pre-existing) pub, the footage to be available to the Police on demand. If that’s not a complete no-no for anybody who wanted to go to that pub, then I don’t know what is.
But perhaps it’s because “those who have nothing to hide, have nothing to fear.”