Comments from Obama – about Islam!


Note: Not very much here that makes me think ill of Mr Obama, assuming, that is, these are not the usual fabricated quotes American conservatives spray out in place of hard fact. He is less gushing about Islam than most British politicians. As for Christianity, there is nothing I can see as shocking. In general, I agree with his dislike of predestination. It is conceivable that God endowed many of us with propensities and surrounded us with temptations that will justify Him in condemning us to everlasting torment. But those who believe this should stop talking about His infinite love and goodness. Since I don’t have to pay his taxes or obey his laws, I am able to observe that BO seems to be less stupid and malevolent that most of his predecessors in the White House. SIG

Michael Snyder

Contrast Barack Obama’s Quotes About Islam With His Quotes About Christianity

You are about to read some of the most shocking quotes that Barack Obama has ever uttered in public. A few of these have been widely circulated, but most of them are very obscure. Even though he claims to be a Christian, throughout his political career Obama has repeatedly attacked traditional Biblical Christianity and he has a very long history of anti-Christian actions. In public speeches he has repeatedly cast doubt on the Bible, he has repeatedly stated that he does not believe that Jesus is necessary for salvation, and he has consistently said that he believes that all “people of faith” believe in the same God. At the same time, Obama has always referred to Muhammed as “the Prophet”, he has always expressed great love and respect for Islam, and he has even removed all references to Islam from terror training materials used by federal government agencies. So what in the world does “the leader of the free world” actually believe? Read the quotes below and decide for yourself…

20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam

#1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”

#2 “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”

#3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”

#4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”

#5 “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”

#6 “Islam has always been part of America”

#7 “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”

#8 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”

#9 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”

#10 “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”

#11 “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”

#12 “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”

#13 “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”

#14 “throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”

#15 “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”

#16 “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”

#17 “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”

#18 “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”

#19 “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”

#20 “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”

20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Christianity

#1 “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”

#2 “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”

#3 “Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”

#4 “Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages – the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity – are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”

#5 “The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics.”

#6 From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”

#7 Obama’s response when asked what his definition of sin is: “Being out of alignment with my values.”

#8 “If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that was all there was to it, people wouldn’t have to keep coming to church, would they.”

#9 “This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell.”

#10 “I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”

#11 “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.”

#12 “I’ve said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell.”

#13 “Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will–they have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”

#14 On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount.”

#15 “You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

#16 “In our household, the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology”

#17 “On Easter or Christmas Day, my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the Chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites.”

#18 “we have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own”

#19 “All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra — (applause) — as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. (Applause.)”

#20 “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”

16 responses to “Comments from Obama – about Islam!

  1. If it’s true that Western culture is dying, then in stands to reason that the ruling class will have to start looking for a replacement one…

  2. I can pretty much guarantee that if you check these with Snopes you will find they are all misquotations, fabrications, partly true / partly false amalgams of things taken out of context or utterly discredited in some way or another. I never cease to be amazed that intelligent people just forward this stuff round the world as fact without checking it. (I haven’t checked any of these myself, but I’d wager a considerable amount that I’m right).
    I disagree with you, Sean, about Obama being the least malevolent of presidents. He looks to me like an American version of Blair. Except Blair’s tan is fake, of course.
    Obama has openly promised to ‘change’ America and trample on the principles espoused by the Founding Fathers, turning the USA into a socialist Eutopia (sorry, Freudian slip there).
    There are many who think this a good thing. I do not. I am unashamedly an ‘originalist’ – committed to the philosophy of Thomas Jefferson and his ilk.
    Not sure where you stand on this, Sean. I know you hate America as much as I love it, but I would see you as being in sympathy with Jefferson?

  3. The whole thing shows a level of erudition far beyond the Teleprompter Jesus. Some twat will have written it while BO (that is a nice abbreviation) was on the golf course.

  4. Predestination is a Calvinist heresy anyway.

  5. Perhaps the problem is not “Obama”, but actually it is “religion”.

    By this I try to mean _/what “religion” means to different sets of people/_ . And that what it may mean is something so deeply-innervating (not ennervating) that it makes some of them madly manic and hysterical that someone else form a diffreent set of the same people thinks it means something different.

    I’m sure God didn’t intend this confusion to exist among beings capable of selfhood and consciousness and intellectual modelling. Perhaps the Devil has become involved somewhere along the line.

    I expect it’s theose GramscoFabiaNazis, up to their tricks again, making good seem evil and evil seem good, as they do all the time.
    But why there are so many of them, and why they’ve spilled so much blood in the last 250 years compared to almost none in the previous 2.5 million, escapes me.

    Is Armageddon due about now? I wasn’t aware of the fixture being on the calendar.

  6. “I expect it’s theose GramscoFabiaNazis, up to their tricks again, making good seem evil and evil seem good, as they do all the time.”

    Have you seen ‘The Magic Flute’? It’s all very confusing.

  7. I would guess that Barack Obama despises Islam and Christianity about equally.

    His mother sent him away from his step father when Barry (as he then was) was quite young – and it was not Islamic influence that Stanley Ann worried about anyway (she feared that her new husband was turning pro “capitalist” – yes young Barry was sent back to the United States so that he could be brought up in a more socialist environment than Indonesia, not as odd as it seems as, after 1966, Marxists were hunted animals in Indonesia).

    To someone brought up in the Marxist tradition (as B.O. was) both Christianity and Islam are absurd. I can not see Frank Marshall Davis (or any of the other of B.O.s guides) being “secret Muslims” or anything like that.

    Certainly Barack himself is a straight down the line “Liberation Theology” “Collective Salvation” Marxist (20 years in “Holy Trinity” working hand in hand with .J. Wright) – he no more believes in individual life after death or a being (as opposed to a collective abstraction) called “God” than he believes in Big Foot or the Tooth Fairy.

    HOWEVER……..

    It has been fashionable for some time (on the urging of Barack’s friend Edward Said and others) for the radical left to make an alliance with Islam.

    It is often forgotten that the writer of “Orientalism” (that libel where the very people in the West who regarded oriental cultures as of value, as worthy of study, are smeared as monsters) was NOT a Muslim.

    Barack’s friend Edward Said was actually from a Christian family in Egypt (the family home in Cairo was attacked by a Muslim mob – although in his fictional account of his life he implies the family home was in Judea and was attacked by a Jewish mob), but he understood that Islam (the vast numbers of Muslims) could be a useful ally against “capitalism”.

    Typical Columbia university Frankfurt School stuff – in an “anti Imperialist”, third-world-are-the-international-exploited-proletariat “Critical Theory” context.

    All tactics – actually (as I pointed out above) they despise Islam as much as they despise Christianity.

    However, I suspect that it is a MISTAKE.

    They (the Comrades) make the mistake of assuming all religious people are morons.

    Actually the leading Islamic activists are highly intelligent.

    Comrade Barack (and co) may find they are riding a tiger.

    • I think one thing we have to remember when analysing and describing marxists is that what we are describing often seems internally contradictory, because it is. The marxist theory being a false theory, it is bound to contain internal contradictions. This leads them to very strange places, such as for instance attacking relatively mild and patchy historical “closeting” of women in Europe while supporting extreme closeting of women in the Islamic world as “culturally appropriate”.

      The basic problem with Critical Theory is that it only critiques European culture. All others are off limits.

  8. I do not think he leading Marxists are that dumb Ian – I think they know they are contradicting themselves when they support “the rights of women” and “Gay Rights” and (at the same time) make nice with Islam.

    They know they are contradicting themselves, that “Critical Theory” (the modern name for the Frankfurt School) is a twisted mess – but they do not care, because it is all about tactics (all about putting together “victim groups” in an alliance against “capitalism”).

    However, I think their tactics are mistaken – because the leading Muslims are not the morons that people such as Comrade Barack think they are.

    It would actually be in the interests of the “Progressives” to break the de facto alliance with Islam – but they would never believe that if the source of suggestion is the ideological enemy (people like us).

    So there is not much that can be done.

    • This is where I believe my religious analysis is useful. Christendom has an Achilles Heel because Christianity is unique as a religion in requiring its followers to criticise themselves constantly as sinners. This can be a positive thing because it encourages self-improvement. But it can also be manipulated by others to force the Christian (or in modern times, “post-Christian”) into an orgy of self-criticism and self-abasement.

      So this is one reason they are so successful. By larding on ever more sins, from racism to mistreating animals, from sexism to guilt about “Imperialism”, it has been possible to manipulate that Christian guilt complex into effective self immolation. It’s a very effective strategy that just wouldn’t work in other cultures.

  9. I had not thought of that Ian – and the scary thing is that I think you are correct.

    There is also the other idea (which I had thought of) of do-unto-others-as-you-would-wish-them-to-do-unto-you – which can lead to suicidal behaviour when the people one is dealing with do not share the principle – and the followers of Mohammed do not. The Western mind deals with this by thinking in terms of “extremists” or “radicals” or people “distorting”, “misinterpreting” or “not living up to” Islam (the sort of Bush and Blair talk that always made me want to throw up).

    For all the talk of “multiculturalism” and “diversity” – Westerners appear to be unable to grasp that another set of rules (totally different from theirs) can exist.

    By the way the alliance between Islamists and Marxists has largely broken down in countries such as Egypt and Tunisia (they are back to killing each other again) but the news does not seem to have reached the Western universities (and those people who they produce).

  10. Julie near Chicago

    I only partly agree, Paul. I certainly agree that the Sith despises Christianity and also that he worships none but His Glorious Self (despite the doubts that occasionally beset almost any devout worshipper of whatever Deity, or deities). But I don’t think he despises Islam with the same fervor. I’d guess he thinks the whole deal is kinda silly, but also somewhat comfy as long as he doesn’t have to get personally involved with the actual religion.

    I still think he has no real cultural home nor sense of civilizational community, except that of the day-glo-flamingo-colored milieu, from which he derived his mindset…and the genuine Communists too, from whom he learned hate-the-West-and-especially-the-U.S.-U.K. The Post-Colonial “anti-imperialist” narrative. I also still think he doesn’t know whether he’s really “Black” or “White.” Must be dreadfully dyspeptic-making, having to be various sets of opposite things at the same time.

    Hugo — Snopes is not the Last Word on things political. “Trust [if you must] but VERIFY.” He did say that thing about “the sweetest sound” being the “Muslim call to prayer,” and the rest of the pro-Muslim shtick is pretty predictable from a political pandering to part of his political base, hoping to work up pro-bama domestically and to be recognized as President of the World internationally. I disagree with you heartily: I would bet that those quotes are all substantially correct.

    It’s possible to read the ones about Christianity without being mightily offended, however. One has to realize that for Obie, this is as close as he dare get to pandering to the Christian base, or to what he thinks is the Christian base. After all, he has to put his thumb on the Muslim side of the scale, since the Muslims are the Underdogs. (HAH! but there it is, just the same.)

    If the Christians and the Americans really want to be offended, let them remember and grasp what goes on in the mind of a wannabe “President” when he hears “God DAMN the United States!” and such verbal sewage over the course of years. From … why yes, from a “Christian” minister yet! I find it extremely offensive, both as a former Christian and as an American, to find that such a person now actually has gotten himself recognized as “President.”

    (Not that I’m convinced Rev. Wrong was entirely honest in his “passionate hatred.” Hey, it’s a shtick, it’s a living, and it’s power. And personal identity, too. Rebel with a Just Cause! Just like young Billy. “What a great country!”)

  11. Julie – as you most likely know the “Rev” Wright’s father was a real Christian Minister in Philadelphia. And J. Wright seems to have been a perfectly normal person whilst in the U.S. Navy. But then he went to college……

    As for Barry Obama – I can remember him imitating the Islamic call to prayer to amuse media lackeys of his (it was recorded), and saying (again with mockery) how they used to recite the Islamic statement of faith at school in Indonesia.

    I wonder if he knows that to say these things and then go back on them (indeed mock them) afterwards, carries a death sentence according to Islamic law. Muslims are not so tolerant of apostates and phonies as modern Christians are.

    “Anti Imperialism” – “Anti Colonialism” – the international proletariat in the third world exploited by the “capitalist” West.

    “Lenin” did not even make up this stuff – he stole it from Hobson (although Hobson always used to throw in stuff about the “Jewish” capitalists)

    I can see the “Liberal” Hobson (if he was alive today) going on some “Palestinian” (Emperor Hadrian 2nd Christian century – BBC and trendy Church of England vicars please note THERE IS NO SUCH PLACE as “first century Palestine”) solidarity march (“smash the apartheid state – death to the Jews”) I am sure he would do very well in the modern British Liberal Democratic party.

    And that will happen in the United States also.

    Most American Jews vote Democrat – unaware that in the universities (and increasingly outside the universities) the rising generation of Dem leaders (including the ones from Jewish families – remember the background of the most famous head of the Spanish Inquisition) want to wipe out (sorry “break the power of”) Jews. With the rising Islamic population this makes electoral sense (especially in Europe [how long is the Muslim vote in the major British cities going to tolerate someone with the background of "Ed" Miliband?)] – but in America also). Not just a matter of exterminating Israel (what is another six million Jews…..) – but the party of racial quotas (sorry “the party of Civil Rights”) can not for ever tolerant the “over representation” of Jews in high paying jobs (doctors, lawyers and so on) – is this not an insult to “Social Justice”.

    On the other hand the Republican party has supported the idea of a secure state of Israel in every Convention since 1940 – and has never once got a majority of the Jewish vote (yes Jews for all sorts of parties – but it is a question of whom the majority vote for).

    It is a bit irritating.

    Even the Wall Street traders can not seem to hear what the “Occupy” movement thugs are shouting. Indeed many of the Wall Street crowd actually fund the organisations that (in turn) fund the “Occupy” thugs (how many people know that most Wall Street political money goes to the left and has done for many years – partly out of ideology and partly out of the, quite accurate, hope that the left will give them bigger subsidies).

    Paying the bills of one’s own future executioners.

    It is hard to have much sympathy for such short sighted people.

  12. There is a general idea in Anglo culture that capitalists should fund leftist causes as a form of penance.

  13. I wish that was a joke Ian – but we both know that it is basically the truth.

    Although of the biggest funders are not really business people – for example Mrs Heinz-Kerry (one of the big funders of the “Tides Foundation” – which in turn funds basically all the far left groups) only has vast wealth because she married Mr Heinz.

    Just as Mr Kerry (although born rich) only has vast wealth because he married Mrs Heinz-Kerry.