I detect the slight vapour-pressure of angry conservatives, now


David Davis

The Speaker, described as John Bercow, has, it seems, done something to upset Tory MPs more than once. A pity that such upset will not turn into something more tangible: such as English secession from the UK, the firing from it of MPs from the thus-sundered parts of The Islands, and a more-or-less-permanent Tory majority in England.

The benefits of this would be that at least we only trot slowly towards panopticon oppression, rather than be galloped in the tumbrils and cattle-trucks of Labour’s nazism. But even Labour Nazis cannot know what time will bring, and what we really need is time.

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8 responses to “I detect the slight vapour-pressure of angry conservatives, now

  1. He is an absolute tosser.

    A classic example of a jumped up, self important, pompous little creep.

    The more he is on television and exposed to the public gaze the better.

  2. C H Ingoldby:
    “A classic example of a jumped up, self important, pompous little creep.”

    Pots and kettles…

    Tony

  3. “The benefits of this would be that at least we only trot slowly towards panopticon oppression, rather than be galloped in the tumbrils and cattle-trucks of Labour’s nazism.”

    Is this a good thing? We’re still being led in the same direction so it could be argued that the slowest speed is still too fast. Sure, it buys time but I sometimes feel that we can’t move back towards liberty until oppression has built to the point that the average citizen feels its weight personally and can no longer tolerate it. If that’s so then it might be better to make the painful process of getting there less drawn out. It’s almost an argument for voting Labour except for the fact that the Cobbleition – and the Tories for that matter – really are almost indistinguishable. It’ll be a year soon and the only major change is the scrapping of ID cards. Other than that it’s been very much “Meet the new boss…”

  4. I don’t think we can move back towards liberty. What’s gone is gone. We need to move forward to it. That’s a different thing, and requires different strategies. I’m not sure we ever had much of it anyway. If we did, it was so long ago as to be irrelevant. All we can say is that in Britain we have never had any guarantees of liberty. It has never been politically declared. What liberties we had were whatever the rulers couldn’t see any selfish interest in getting involved in.

    If there was a “libertarian” phase in Britain, it was the 18th Century. That world is so long ago, so different, so alien to us, that to want to “return” there even if we could, is pointless. And to attempt to do so would be like people in the 8th century trying to put the Roman Empire back together. But no amount of wearing togas and calling your cronies “consuls” would do so. The Roman Empire was gone. History moves forwards, not back.

    We are now in a stage of history in which, future historians will observe, the first global civilisation was being put together. That is not something we can prevent; neither is it something we should prevent. Free trade naturally leads to the demise of the nation state as we know it, and the creation of a global civilisation. That is why Robert Henderson is so upset, presumably. Whoever Robert Henderson is.

    The fight now is over what sort of global civilisation we are going to have. We can have World Government- a global tyranny from pole to pole. Or we can have Global Liberty- a global free state from pole to pole. I know which one I want.

    Anyway, this is another reason that conservatism is a useless doctrine. All it can try to do is cling on to that which is passing away. A conservative in 2nd Century Rome might have hoped to reinstate the Republic. But that was not possible. A conservative in 6th century Rome might have dreamed of recreating the Empire. But that was not possible. History rushes on, always going forwards.

    So. To hell with worrying about conservatives and the awesomely useless strategy of foot dragging. Global tyranny or global liberty. That’s the battle for this century.

  5. Andrew Withers (LPUK)

    I have posted on the ‘Anna Raccoon’ blog the real results of the Oldham election. 52% did not vote. Labour claims electoral legitimacy on 20% of the available vote. Milibandism rest on scraping through with a tiny fraction of gerrymandered Trades Union Votes.

    Personally I feel as if I am sitting in 1930′s Germany waiting for the apocalypse

  6. I don’t think Conservatism is a purely reactionary doctrine, always looking to set the clock back. Certainly it does have a tendency to respect traditions and the accumulated wisdom of the generations, in contrast with the ‘Year Zero’ inclinations of the leftists. As such the Conservatives tendencies can be very healthy and often complement Libertarian ideals.

    Anything that turns Conservatives against the leftists has got to be helpful. It holds back the leftists attempts to create a monopoly of ideas and a monopoly of power. That creates the intellectual atmosphere in which alternative ideas will be more readily listened to.

  7. “Anything that turns Conservatives against the leftists has got to be helpful.”

    The BNP? The Socialist Workers Party and the Communist Party? “Helpful” to what??

    Tony

  8. Tony Horlicks, if you want to troll my comments, try and come up with questions or comments that actually mean something.