…. worse, in the short term.
David Davis
Libertarians of the world must be gnashing their teeth at the charade in Parliament yesterday, in which an amendment to put the Lisbon Treaty EU Constitution to a national referendum was lost. The entire political history and culture of the Mother Nation of individual freedom as a counterwight to tyranny (can you name one other for me?) is being obliterated. The MPs are voting to give away sovereignty leased temporarily to them, which is not their to give.
Here’s how they voted: (NB I have NOT listed the abstainers yet, which I predict would have made the vote closer if (most of) them had voted in line with their private beliefs or those of their electors!)
NB: Abstainers are now listed at the end of the post.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?view=BLOGDETAIL&grid=F11&blog=yourview&xml=/news/2008/03/05/view05.xml&posted=true&_requestid=416981 THE PEOPLE ARE VERY ANGRY, FEEL FREE TO DISTRIBUTE THIS TO THE WORLD From the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation MPs WHO SUPPORTED THEIR PARTY INSTRUCTIONS
186 Conservative MPs supported the Conservative proposal
308 Labour MPs opposed the proposal
50 Liberal Democrat MPs did not vote on the proposal29 LABOUR MPs SUPPORTED THE TORY PROPOSAL
Colin Burgon (Elmet)
Ronnie Campbell (Blyth Valley)
Frank Cook (Stockton North)
Jeremy Corbyn (Islington North)
John Cummings (Easington)
Ian Davidson (Glasgow South West)
David Drew (Stroud)
Gwyneth Dunwoody (Crewe & Nantwich)
Frank Field (Birkenhead)
Mark Fisher (Stoke-on-Trent Central)
Roger Godsiff (Birmingham Sparkbrook & Small Heath)
Kate Hoey (Vauxhall)
Kelvin Hopkins (Luton North)
Lindsay Hoyle (Chorley)
Lynne Jones (Birmingham Selly Oak)
John McDonnell (Hayes & Harlington)
David Marshall (Glasgow East)
Austin Mitchell (Great Grimsby)
Anne Moffat (East Lothian)
George Mudie (Leeds East)
Denis Murphy (Wansbeck)
Alan Simpson (Nottingham South)
Dennis Skinner (Bolsover)
Graham Stringer (Manchester Blackley)
Gisela Stuart (Birmingham Edgbaston)
David Taylor (Leicestershire North West)
Paul Truswell (Pudsey)
Robert Wareing (Liverpool West Derby)
Mike Wood (Batley & Spen)
13 LIB DEM MPs SUPPORTED THE TORY PROPOSAL
Annette Brooke (Dorset Mid & Poole North)
Alistair Carmichael (Orkney & Shetland)
Tim Farron (Westmorland & Lonsdale)
Andrew George (St Ives)
Sandra Gidley (Romsey)
Mike Hancock (Portsmouth South)
David Heath (Somerton & Frome) John Hemming (Birmingham Yardley)
Paul Holmes (Chesterfield)
Martin Horwood (Cheltenham)
Greg Mulholland (Leeds North West)
John Pugh (Southport)
Richard Younger-Ross (Teignbridge)
THREE TORY MPs OPPOSED THE TORY PROPOSAL
Kenneth Clarke (Rushcliffe)
David Curry (Skipton & Ripon)
John Gummer (Suffolk Coastal)
20 OTHER MPs SUPPORTED THE TORY PROPOSAL
Gregory Campbell (DUP, Londonderry East)
Nigel Dodds (DUP, Belfast North)
William McCrea (DUP, Antrim South)
Peter Robinson (DUP, Belfast East)
David Simpson (DUP, Upper Bann)
Sammy Wilson (DUP, Antrim East) Derek Conway (Independent Conservative, Old Bexley & Sidcup)
Dai Davies (Independent, Blaenau Gwent)
Respect the Unity Coalition: George Galloway (Independent, Bethnal Green & Bow)
Ulster Unionist Party: Lady Sylvia Hermon (Independent, Down North)
Stewart Hosie (SNP, Dundee East)
Angus MacNeil (SNP, Na h-Eileanan an Iar)
Angus Robertson (SNP, Moray)
Alex Salmond (SNP, Banff & Buchan)
Mike Weir (SNP, Angus)
Pete Wishart (SNP, Perth & Perthshire North)
Elfyn Llwyd (Plaid Cymru, Meirionnydd Nant Conwy)
Adam Price (Plaid Cymru, Carmarthen East & Dinefwr)
Hywel Williams (Plaid Cymru, Caernarfon)
Dr Richard Taylor (Independent Kidderminster Hospital and Health Concern, Wyre Forest)
OTHER MPs WHO DID NOT VOTE ON THE PROPOSAL
Two Conservative
14 Labour
Eight from other parties
Two Conservative MPs and two Labour MPs were tellers for the two sides, counting MPs as they voted
Posted by Jonathan Lloyd on March 6, 2008 12:02 AM 2THE REAL GORDON BROWN THE ONE EYED SERPENTJohn Corfield 7:30Brown ” a devious , nasty, liar “.From personal experience here, North of the Border, Brown hasn’t changed since we were both in student politics , when his dishonesty was legendary.
If he runs true to form, he will be emboldened. Expect even worse to come.
Posted by Tam on March 6, 2008 9:01 AM 3THE REAL PEOPLEQuestion to BrownMy Dad was a quiet and reserved gentleman who took up arms to preserve the life and freedoms of England for his future generations. My uncle spent 4 years in a Japanese prison of war camp and had his achiles tendons slashed for trying to escape (his life was shortened by that experience). Five of my other uncles also fought in the second world war for the same reasons. One of my Aunt got caught up in this aand became one of the ‘Tenko’ women and her only son was born while on the march.Why?That is why I will never forgive you.
Posted by Jill on March 5, 2008 9:11 PM I have included sundry stuff attached to the bottom, to illustrate to readers around the world who may not be “au fait” with the local detail, how people feel about this matter.
Perhaps all advanced civilisations in the Universe get to this point, which could be why I think there aren’t any. Please link to “The most astonishing video you will ever see”, on this site in december archives, and to here where you can also see it on Devil’s Kitchen.
And here are the abstainers:
LABOUR - Diane Abbott, John Battle, Ann Cryer, Paul Flynn, Neil Gerrard, Patrick Hall, Glenda Jackson, Ian McCartney, John MacDougall, John Prescott, Ian Stewart, Rudi Vis, Claire Ward, Tony Wright.
TORY
John Maples and Ian Taylor
OTHERS
Jeffrey Donaldson, Ian Paisley, Iris Robinson, Mark Durkan, Alisdair McDonnell, Eddie McGrady, Andrew Pelling, Clare Short.
24 MPs in total.
I hope these MPs will feel as much of a backlash as those who voted in favour of the treaty!