QUOTE OF THE DAY…. We don’t really do quotes of the day here as we have no staff, but this one by JOHN HOWARD (ex PM of Australia) is quite OK


As the two night-geeks who read this blog both know, we have not any actual bloggers here but a staff composed entirely of Ship’s Senior-Apprentice-Blogging-Chimpanzee-Typists. It will be remembered that, a few nights ago, their off-duty Mess was wrecked by an incoming-comment on the port side, not spotted in the (currently out-of-order) Palantir, and flinging (really quite modern) Remington Machine-Type Writers,  also (less modern) bananas everywhere, while the poor buggers slept in their hammocks.     

Minimal-statists and other Libertarians will of course have points-of-view about the legitimacy of a “government”, and its right (or otherwise) to state what the prevailing culture, religion and civilisation is in a territory. These strictures would also, I think, be deemed to apply to state-appointed “incantors” (perhaps I mean what used ot be called “precentors” or praecantors) and priests – such as the staggeringly comical caricature of the Devil Himself, Rowan Williams, currently impersonating, and described as, an “Archbishop of Canterbury”. I don’t know if the word “incantor” yet exists in the English Language but perhaps someone will wiki it.

However, if there is general tolerance – for now – of a state and its administration, and the vast majority of its taxees and farm-animals think they are – or ought – to be living in agreement with some defined set of memes, set substantially by themselves for historical reasons and therefore agreed to (willingly or no) by their bureaucrats, with whom they are stuck in a temporal sense, then that is what ought to be accepted by “other” “cultures”. This ought to be the case, be they ever so aggressive and malevolent towards the host one. Their supposed anger is irrelevant and is of course their problem, not the host’s.

This from Christina Speight: 

The United Kingdom Needs A Leader Like This!  He obviously doesn’t agree with the Archbishop of Canterbury ……..

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Ex-Prime Minister John Howard – Australia

“Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims —– by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation’s mosques. Quote: ‘IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture.. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.’  

‘This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom’

‘We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!’

‘Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.’  We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.’

‘This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,

‘THE RIGHT TO LEAVE’.’

‘If you aren’t happy here then LEAVE. We didn’t force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted’.

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5 responses to “QUOTE OF THE DAY…. We don’t really do quotes of the day here as we have no staff, but this one by JOHN HOWARD (ex PM of Australia) is quite OK

  1. This is very funny.

    Jews believe in Jewish Law, and — while accepting the law of the land — have their own Courts and Judges (Dayans). Here and in Australia. If one disapproves of Moslems asking for equal treatment, should one call for the criminalization of Jewish Courts?

    All this stuff coming from Howard is a sick joke. The Australian Courts, in a landmark case, found that under the principles of English Law, up to 80% of Australia belongs to its Aboriginal population. Howard’s government promptly rushed through Statist legislation.

    Of course, there are very few Aborigines left now, under policies and practices to exterminate them as an identifiable group, practices which were still in force as recently as 1970.

    You might think that a contrite apology and prompt restitution would issue from Howard’s government. But no.

    Presumably, Aborigines too should “leave the country” if they don’t like the way the Palefaces are running it.

    Regards,

    Tony

  2. Tony, I think Kevin Rudd has just done what you asked for! On huge videowalls as well as in the broadcast meeja! (Or he is about to, any day; it was in the press yesterday.) best rgds, DD!

    PS
    Granted that the policies you mention were not what you and I’d call exactly non-racist and designed to further the prospects of the “native Australians” as an identifiable race, these did kind of live in a box for 40,000 years. OK, our immediate geological hominid ancestors did too, but someone, somewhere, started to break out of it. (It was us.)

    History shows that “superior” and “inferior” cultures do not interact well to the advantage of the “inferior” one, if what you want is its survival unchanged or undegraded in size, population and lore or “influence on the future”.

    Further to that above, I don’t seem to encounter much public criticism of the French, the Portuguese, the Spanish Empire, the Belgians (arguable as bad as any – look at the Congo!) or even the Dutch. it’s always the poor old Anglosphere wot getz in in the neck – and frankly I’m sick and tired of that!

  3. Dave:

    But I’m not sticking it to the Anglosphere.

    The exterminationist policies applied to the Aborigines were absolutely contrary to the law and the spirit of the Anglosphere.

    I went to Geelong Grammar School, Australia’s top school. Some of the kids there were heirs to million-acre properties. My schoolmates would tell me horror stories about weekend Abo-hunting parties, and bowls of poisoned porridge left out by boundary fences.

    Up to 1970, the fixed Government policy towards Aborigines was to take the kids from their families, and ship them thousands of miles to all-white communities, where they would have to interbreed with whites (if at all). The fact that the mixed-race children are fertile proves genetic compatibility. These are human beings. This admixture would rsult in the disappearance of Aborigines as a distinct group within four generations. Australia had been declared Terra Nullius from the beginning. The Aborigines would be airbrushed out of history.

    Of course the other countries you mention did their share of dirty work. And I think you’ll find the governments who did it come in for their share of criticism.

    The Anglosphere is a blessing. Alas, it’s a mixed blessing.

    Regards,

    Tony

  4. I think it’s the least bad of many alternatives – I think Churchill said something similar about “democracy”.

  5. Nothing wrong with Muslims voluntarily practicing Sharia law where it is in line with the laws of the host country.

    Obviously if stoning or lopping off hands was advocated that would be illegal (under our current legal system), but conditions upon marriage and divorce or religious matters, why not?
    As many have pointed out the CofE has its canon law, Judaism has its courts, why should Islam be prevented of it? Except to appeal to the illiberal nationalists and reactionaries (nothing libertarian about them).

    Even my workplace has its laws – I must work for so many hours a day or risk losing my job. I mustn’t be drunk at work, despite alcohol being legal. We have a court system consisting of the line of management. If they act in violation of the law of this country, then the public court system can take care.

    Many of those who complain about this possibility also complain that the community is encouraged not to deal with things itself and instead to resort to the police and the state – yet when a community seeks to do so they are attacked for being different.